EAA Chapter 863: Forum Posts

In Memory

GOD CREATED EARTH, THEN MAN,

TO DO HIS WILL, CARRY OUT HIS HOLY PLAN.

THROUGH THE AGES GREAT MEN CAME ALONG,

HONEST, FAITHFUL, LOVING, STEADFAST, STRONG.

MEN OF INTEGRITY, VALOR, GIVING AND SHARING,

A LIFE OF COMPASSION AND CARING.

MEN WHO WERE ALWAYS HELPING THOSE IN NEED,

TELLING OF GOD`S LOVE, PLANTING A SEED.

GIVING THEIR TIME AND TALENT TO HELP OTHERS,

WIDOWS, ORPHANS, CHRISTIAN SISTERS AND BROTHERS.

GOD`S HOLY BOOK IS OPEN, A HAND BEGINS TO WRITE,

WELCOME TO HEAVEN, MY SON, HAMILTON CARTWRIGHT.

YOU GAVE YOUR ALL, YOU GAVE YOUR BEST,

BECAUSE YOU DID, MY PEOPLE ARE MOST BLESSED.

YOU HAVE FOUGHT THE FIGHT, YOU HAVE RUN THE RACE,

NOW ENTER IN TO YOUR ETERNAL RESTING PLACE.

HAM WAS A MAN OF VALUES, CONSISTENT AND STRONG,

NOT ALWAYS RIGHT, BUT HE WAS NEVER WRONG.

HE NEVER WAVERED, YOU KNEW HOW HE STOOD,

ON POLITICS, RELIGION, CONCRETE OR WOOD.

ONE THING WE KNOW THAT IS TRUE,

HIS LAST DAY WAS SPENT DOING WHAT HE LOVED TO DO.

THE BIBLE WAS HIS FLIGHT PLAN, GOD`S WORD HIS RADAR,

AND HE SPREAD JESUS LOVE BOTH AT HOME AND AFAR.

EVERY TIME YOU LOOK UP IN THE SKY,

WAVE AT HAM, CAUSE HE`S FLYING HIGH.

HE`S GONE PAST THE STARS, MOON, THE MILKY WAY,

HE MADE A PERFECT LANDING ON THE HEAVENLY RUNWAY.

MAKE YOUR FLIGHT PLANS, LIVE AND DO RIGHT,

YOU CAN FLY JUST AS HIGH AS HAMILTON CARTWRIGHT.

JIMMY AND JOY JACOBS---APRIL 8, 2008

In Memory

I just wanted to thank everyone for the calls and the attendance to any of the services that have been held for my father. They will be missed dearly. Many people have come to me with comments about how they have been either helped or touched by my fathers life. Again I thank you for all of your support during these difficult times.

In Memory

I met Bob and Ham several years ago when I became a member of Nashville EAA Chapter 162. We were meeting then at Signature Aviation at BNA. It was during the dreaming stages of the chapter hangar project at Smyrna. Both men were kind to this newcomer. When things went awry with the general contractor for the hangar project, Ham picked up the torch and managed it to its completion. He did this while building his first RV, an RV-8, which, of course was perfect. He had no more than completed the maiden flight for the 8 before he ordered the RV-10 kit and finished it in record time. Ham was a meticulous perfectionist. And he was damn good too. And, the Airstream trailer that Ham and Suzie pulled to Oshkosh every year was a great place to sit and talk airplanes. They were always parked across from the Ultralight Barn.

Ham was our Technical Advisor who was unselfish with his knowledge and talent. Janet and I have received many calls and emails from builders around the country who were stuck and needing advice. The only person we knew who would unquestionably be the right person to direct them to was Ham. He helped so many and traveled great distances to do so. Ham was a dedicated and loving Christian who traveled to South America on several occasions on mission trips. Please be in prayer for Susie and their family at this tragic time.

I always smiled when I got to the end of each of Bob's emails. His signature was "Bob (I love my Cardinal) Lloyd". And Bob loved flying. He was a gentle man who always had a smile on his face. Bob was a major contributor to email strings, always having something to say and he seemed to always be right on target. He was scheduled to participate in a church process this Sunday that accepts folks as members of the church. I know God had already accepted him and all that was left was for the congregation to go through the earthly formalities. Please be in prayer for Bonnie and their family at this tragic time.

Bob and Ham were extremely active members of both our chapter and Nashville Chapter 162.

In Memory

I feel tonight would be an appropriate time to open a forum for each of us to share with one another the impact Ham and Bob had on our lives. I stayed at the airport this evening to watch the beautiful sunset on a day I shall never forget. Watching these guys leave today to never return home has broke my heart. It has caused a great sting not only to their families, but our flying family as well. I've learned in life to never question why. We can only grow closer through situations such as these. I would ask that you keep Susie, Bonnie and the family in your every thought and pray for their strength in this very difficult time. Use this forum to help them see that they are loved and very important to us.

What is currently going on with our website.

Gary Piper wrote: THE SITE IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT!!!!!!
I keep seeing new surprizes.
SkyVector is a trip. . .no pun intended.
Looking forward to the NTSB accident link.

The database driven links site is next on the list of revisions to the website. Look for it to come soon.

What is currently going on with our website.

THE SITE IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT!!!!!!
I keep seeing new surprizes.
SkyVector is a trip. . .no pun intended.
Looking forward to the NTSB accident link.

What is currently going on with our website.

I have now fixed the email for the forums posts. Now if you are watching a forum you will recieve an email when it is updated.

What is currently going on with our website.

I have added a banner at the bottom to include an updated sectional to Lebanon Airport. This was a cool site I found that you can use sectionals online for free.

What is currently going on with our website.

I have updated the site to enable RSS feeds. You can now subscribe to the site using your favorite RSS reader and always be informed of what is going on.

I have also added the Recent Documents section on the default page. This will enable the casual visitor to see the last posted newsletter and the last three new event flyers uploaded. Again this will be enable to the public. Now that we have documentation available to the public I will work on getting the public private settings working in the document management pages.

Enjoy the new banners that will be posted. If you have a picture of your plane that you would like to see posted let me know. It has to be a flying shot and be from the around 10 or 2 position that the picture was taken from. There just is not that much space for anything else.

And last edit for today included a section on our footer template that gives some page statistics on each page as well as how many session that are currently open to our website. The sessions would normally convert to a user browsing our site but I am questioning the statistic that it is pulling from. I am going to keep an eye on it.

Computer Glitch

A Minneapolis couple decided to go to Florida to thaw out during a particularly icy winter. They planned to stay at the same hotel where they spent their honeymoon 20 years earlier. Because of hectic schedules, it was difficult to coordinate their travel schedules. So, the husband left Minnesota and flew to Florida on Thursday, with his wife flying down the following day.

The husband checked into the hotel. There was a computer in his room, so he decided to send an email to his wife. However, he accidentally left out one letter in her email address, and without realizing his error, sent the email.

Meanwhile, somewhere in Houston a widow had just returned home from her husband's funeral. He was a minister who was called home to glory following a heart attack. The widow decided to check her email expecting messages from relatives and friends. After reading the first message, she screamed and fainted. The widow's son rushed into the room, found his mother on the floor, and saw the computer screen which read:

To: My Loving Wife
Subject: I've Arrived
Date: October 16, 2007

I know you're surprised to hear from me. They have computers here now and you are allowed to send emails to your loved ones. I've just arrived and have been checked in. I've seen that everything has been prepared for your arrival tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing you then! Hope your journey is as uneventful as mine was.

P.S. Sure is freaking hot down here!

What is currently going on with our website.

The password recovery is now working. It will reset your password and send you a new one in email. You can then change your password to whatever you want after you kogin.

What is currently going on with our website.

Welcome to the new site first and foremost.

I am still working out some bugs and still have a few projects to finish. I just wanted to start a discussion on what I am working on and start logging bugs on the site so that I have a way to keep up with what needs to be done still. Below is a list of what I am still working on either fixing or adding to the site.

User administration pages for site admins.
Password recovery for chapter members that forget their password (Not Currently Working)
Member Photo Albums.
Emails from the forums for watched threads.
Who's online under the members page.
Picture randomizer for the page header.
Administration and dynamic content for the links page.
Officers and board members designation under membership page.
Recent documents pane for the recent flyer's and newsletter on the main page.
RSS feeds to allow users to know when something has changed.
Site counter and statistics.
Finish site roles for differet user levels.
Chapter contact form for the board members.

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

High Octane Hooch

Bud and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft mechanics in Dallas, TX. One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with nothing to do.

Bud says, "Man, I wish we had something to drink!"

Jim says, "Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a buzz. You wanna try it?"

So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane hooch and got completely smashed. The next morning Bud wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. Nothing. Then the phone rings. It's Jim.

Jim says, "Hey, how do you feel this morning?"

Bud says, "I feel great. How about you?"

Jim says, "I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?"

Bud says, "No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We ought to do this more often."

Jim says, "Yeah, well there's just one thing."

Bud asks, "What's that?"

Jim asks, "Have you farted yet?"

Bud says, "No."

Jim says, "Well, DON'T, 'cause I'm in Denver ."

Project Insurance

James Cartwright wrote: Is there any stipulations on a project inside of a hanger that gets destroyed versus having the project insured itself?

If the project itself is not insured then you are depending on the hangar owners policy to cover your loss and their liability policy will only pay if their negligence was the cause of the loss. A tornado or lightning strike that causes a hangar fire would not fall under the hangar owners liability policy as he was not negligent in any way. This means that your project would not be covered.

Additionally, most airports require hangar owners to carry a general liability policy of $1,000,000 for bodily injury and property damage on the hangar premises. What they do not require is hangar keepers liabiliy. Without hangar keepers liability coverage there is no coverage for aircraft in the care, custody, or control of the hangar owner. This would apply to hangar owners who rent out space to other aircraft owners. Hangar keepers is an additional coverage that can be added to the basic premises policy. This limit varies depending on what it chosen by the hangar owner. The basic coverage is for $100,000 per aircraft and $250,000 per occurrence. If you are in a hangar with 5 other aircraft and it burns to the ground due to a negligent act of the owner then there is probably not enough hangar keepers liability to cover all the aircraft. If you do not have coverage on your project you may be left holding the bag. The hangar keepers limit can be increased, but the more coverage needed, the more the premium will be.

Project Insurance

There are 2 basic ways to insure a project although one is more common than the other. The most common way is to insure it as an aircraft for ground, not in motion / storage coverage. This is done through your common carriers such as AIG, Global, US Specialty, etc. Most all of the companies will write this sort of coverage and it carries all the bells and whistles of a regular policy except for in motion coverage. Depending on the type of aircraft that the project will eventually be, this may be the cheapest way to go about insuring it.

The second way to insure a project is through the National Hangar program as spare parts. National Hangar will insure an aircraft project as "spare parts" up to the point at which fuel is put in the tanks. Once fuel is put in the tanks, it must be switched over to the common carriers and onto an aircraft policy. This is often a cheaper way to insure a project aircraft since the rates are not based on the aircraft type and solely on a value basis. There is however a minimum premium for this type of coverage and it usually hangs around the $600 per year mark.

The minimum premium is what usually becomes the determining factor on which route to take. On a $30,000 Cub project it will probably be cheaper to go the ground, not in motion route. On something like an RV-8, RV-10, Glasair, etc where the completed aircraft falls into a higher risk catagory and value is considerably more, the "spare parts" route through National Hangar is usually the more prudent choice.

By the way, the National Hangar policy will cover the "project" while it is in your garage as well as transporting it to the airport. The common aircraft policies may need to be endorsed accordingly as they are primarily for aircraft already located at an airfield.

Project Insurance

What is the best way to go about insuring a project? Is there any stipulations on a project inside of a hanger that gets destroyed versus having the project insured itself?

Misconceptions

This type of insurance is probably one of the most widely misunderstood. This is a place to ask questions and discuss concerns.

Questions and Concerns

Hangar insurance is not as big a topic as aircraft insurance, but I do get asked about it from time to time. This is a place to ask questions and discuss various scenarios.

Frequent questions

Aircraft insurance always seems to be a hot topic of discussion with a lot of misconceptions. This is a place to ask those questions and discuss the various scenarios.

New forums!

Welcome to the new EAA Chapter 863 website forums.

We want to encourage communication and colaberation with the chapter members and other chapters. We will be opening up some topics for everyone and would like to have your suggestions for new forum topics. Please send us your suggested topics and we will get them created. If you have any questions feel free to email me.

Fall Classic Fly-In

Asking for ideas for the Fall Classic fly-in this year. We all want to bring our fly-in back this year and we are looking for ideas to spruce up the event.

Post you ideas!

J-3 Cub parts for sale

I currently have a few parts for sale.

Boot Cowl - Make Offer!
New Galvanized Firewall - Make Offer!
Right wing rib set - $200

More to come!

Piper J-3 Cub Restoration

I am in the process of restoring my J-3 Cub as most of you know. I am working on rebuilding the wing panels. Now that being said I am on the second panel installing all new Univair ribs and was wondering the best way to attach the leading edges to the stamped ribs. I was thinking either recesed pop rivets or posibly going back with the sunken PK screws like it came apart.

Any ideas?